Capital District                                                                                                     April 23, 2004

Transportation Committee                                                                                                           

 

RECORD OF MEETING

WORKING GROUP B

 

 

DATE/TIME/PLACE: April 1, 2004, 10:00 AM; CDTC Offices

 

ATTENDANCE: Pat Bennison (NYSDOT), Brian Menyuk (NYSDOT); Sreekumar Nampoothiri (CDTC); Chris O'Neill (CDTC), Henry Peyrebrune; Jill Ross Schmelz (NYSTA), Deb Stacey (CDTC); Tom Werner (NYSDOT); Kristina Younger (CDTA).

 

DISCUSSION SUMMARY:

 

·       Pat Bennison provided a PowerPoint presentation that described the department’s current and planned ITS activities.  Transmit, will be installed at 26 locations along I-87 and I-90 within the Capital District.  Essentially, this technology uses EZPass transmitters in personal vehicles to obtain real time speed data (time and distance is obtained from the EZPass transmitters, speed is calculated).  Transmit data will be sent to the NYS thruway Operation Center.  Real time information will be posted on the web and on variable message signs

 

The department initiated the Winter Travel Advisory (WTA) technology this past winter.  This technology relies on reports from snow plow operators regarding the conditions of the roads during snowstorms.  Condition reports are posted on the web and are updated every four hours or so.

 

The Information Exchange Network (IEN) is a statewide initiative that will roll out in September 2004.  This technology will enable NYSDOT to publish road condition, construction and incident data on a well publicized travel advisory website. This project is interfaced with other states CARS (condition acquisition reporting System); General Dynamics is developing the interface.

 

·       Henry Peyrebrune suggested that a written assessment of ITS in the Capital District should be the next step before we start visioning exercises for ITS.  This assessment should include clearly stating what of ITS technologies are in operation today; what ITS improvements are “committed”; and what ITS improvements are “next”.  It was recommended that this assessment include cost estimates and identify committed and potential funding sources.  It was agreed that such a written statement would be prepared by Jill Ross Schmelz for the Thruway; Pat Bennison for NYSDOT; and Kristina Younger for CDTA.  Kristina also agreed to give a presentation at the next meeting on CDTA ITS initiatives.

 

·       It was also suggested that we look at the market groups that were identified in the Travel task Force reports to determine need by market group.

 

·       CDTC staff efforts on data mining the MIST data were discussed.  Sree Nampootheri presented a preliminary analysis of speed and delay data using MIST for three locations on the Northway. It was also suggested that peak hour in addition to peak period data be analyzed.    It was suggested that the 40 mph thresholds that were used should be compared against level of service thresholds.  It was also suggested that the NYSDOT and CDTC performance measure of “excess vehicle hours of delay” (delay at level of service E or F) should be explored.  Subsequent to the meeting, it was determined that 50 mph would be a threshold that would correspond to the level of service “E/F” threshold, and 60 mph hour would correspond to a level of service D/E threshold, according to the Highway Capacity Manual.  Staff explored the possibility of using a 50 mph threshold instead of a 40 mph threshold; and of calculating excess level of service based on the MIST records in which speeds go below 60 mph.  Initial results indicate this approach will be very valuable.  This work will be more fully discussed at the next meeting 

 

·       Documentation of costs for maintaining expressway facilities through 2030 is important and will need to be comprehensive and include special costs for specific structures.  Infrastructure needs should be considered separately from potential costs of adding capacity.

 

 

ACTION ITEMS: 

·       Pat Bennison will prepare a write-up on NYSDOT ITS programs.

·       Jill Ross Schmelz will prepare a write-up on Thruway ITS programs.

·       Kristina Younger will prepare a write-up on CDTA ITS programs; and will give a presentation at the next meeting on CDTA’s ITS programs.

·       Tom Werner will provide data on expressway infrastructure needs, potential costs, and schedules, for structures and pavement sections.  This will be part of a significant work task for the group in developing 30 year expressway needs.

·       Sreekumar Nampoothiri will continue to work on summarizing and analyzing the MIST data.  Feasible performance measures will be developed for Working Group discussion.

 

 

NEXT MEETING: Thursday, May 6, 2004 from 10:00 to 12:00 noon, at CDTC.