Capital District                                                                                                      March 8, 2005

Transportation Committee                                                                                                           





DATE/TIME/PLACE: March 4, 2005, 9:30 AM, CDTC Offices


ATTENDANCE: Ralph Pascale, Dave Rettig; Sandy Misiewicz; Jason Newman; John Poorman; Jason Purvis




The working group reviewed the “Consideration of Big Idea and Big Ticket Initiatives for the Capital District Transportation System” paper.  Overall, the working group was satisfied with the tone and content of the paper but made the following recommendations for revisions:


·       Because there is currently no sense of urgency to pursue many of the big initiative concepts due to the lack of rapid growth, it is difficult to plan, gain support for and build such projects for the future.  As a result, minor incremental improvements are made but they will likely never have the same impact over time as a big initiative type project.  The issue of incremental change, how it impacts the ability to plan for the future and whether incremental change should stop us from thinking big should be addressed in the paper.

·       With respect to the “yes” and “no” indications for the question of whether the big initiative fits with community value and consensus, the managed lane program should be changed to a probably from a yes and the video surveillance and enforcement program should be changed to a maybe from a no.

·       A big initiative concept that addresses traveler safety regardless of mode should be considered. 

·       Additional detail for the lay person should be included in the paper on each of the big initiative concepts, likely in the form of a one page fact sheet.

·       A few of the concepts should be selected for more comprehensive review and testing against the alternative growth scenarios to be developed by working group A.  Which concepts are selected will be suggested by CDTC staff in the next month. 


The working group also reviewed two charts that depict the potential impacts of managed HOV lanes under different policy scenarios.  The first chart depicts the approach of an HOV lane that is not tolled but the vehicle occupancy requirements for the lane are changed over time.  The second chart depicts a more elegant HOV lane concept that involves changing the vehicle occupancy requirements with respect to the tolling over time.  It represents a more dynamic approach that can be very flexible and could represent a model on which a number of policy choices could be based.


NEXT STEPS: CDTC staff will revise the report as appropriate, prepare the fact sheets and identify and test a few of the concepts against the alternative growth scenarios.  After refinement of the report, Working Group C will be folded into the Quality Region Task Force as the larger group will be dealing with the policy choices related to the work of group C.