Capital
District Transportation Committee
Bicycle
and Pedestrian Task Force
Record of
Meeting on November
18,
Attendance: Barbara Abrahamer
(NYSDOT - Main Office), Stephen Feeney (Schenectady County), Chilton Latham
(Interested Citizen), Steven Marsh (Interested Citizen), Kevin McLoughlin (HRV Greenway), Don Robertson (NYSDOT - Region
1), Paul Russell (Town of Colonie), Bert Schou
(CDTA), Deb Spicer (NYSDOH), Ivan Vamos, (New York
Bicycle Coalition), Katherine Forster (CDTC)
Regrets: Dominick DeCecco (
1.0 AGENDA AND MEETING NOTES REVIEW
There
were no changes to the October Task Force meeting notes.
2.0 UPDATE ON ACTION ITEMS
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3.0 ONGOING TASKS
If
the Bike Signage Guidelines are to recommend specific signs for the Capital
District, many current bicycle signs may have to be replaced at some time. Therefore maintenance and replacement
guidelines should be added for the Regional Bike Trail and the Capital
District. All of these guidelines
concerning bicycle signage must be developed in co-operation with all the
municipalities in the Capital District.
Some
kind of an incentive could be offered, so as to encourage the different
municipalities to use a common sign (especially if it means replacing
signs). Perhaps the two counties could
be responsible for having a pool of replacement signs available. What also must be kept in mind is that the
installation fees for the sign is the prohibitive cost not the cost of the sign
itself.
A
regional or county maintenance system could be organized using CDTA's system of numbering every sign they put up. Also, Albany County has a sign inventory
computer program that could be duplicated for these efforts.
B. Abrahamer, MUTCD specialist for NYSDOT attended this
meeting with D. Robertson. The on-road
section of the Bike Signage Guidelines was revised with information D.
Robertson sent to CDTC. B. Abraham
explained that the state MUTCD must be followed unless the situation is not
covered in the manual. Federal
guidelines are used by states without their own MUTCD. The state revisions for bicycle route signs
will be added to the MUTCD next summer.
It will have five different on-road bike route signs rather than the
three that were available before. With
these new signs, there will be more choice available to sign on-road portions
of a larger trail or other on-road routes that municipalities want to
identify. There are two choices for
signing the on-road portion of the Mohawk-Hudson Bike trail within the NYSDOT
guidelines.
A
suggestion was given that the Tourist Oriented Directional Signs (TODS) program
might be used to inform people how to get to the Mohawk-Hudson Bike Trail. B. Abrahamer noted
that this type of sign is supposed to be used to bring people to a discrete
point not a linear facility. It may be
however be possible to use it for a parking facility beside an entrance to the
bicycle trail. The question that needs
to be answered is whether the signs are for traffic or tourism. CDTC staff will look into this possibility.
Schenectady
County is planning to incorporate the Canal logo into signs they put up for the
Mohawk-Hudson Bike Trail and to sign cross streets and distances for their
portion of the regional trail.
It
was suggested that a time line for the signage guidelines might be needed so
that this project can coincide with other initiatives including the Albany
County's Waterfront initiative, trail construction projects and grant
opportunities. The Greenway's Small
Grants Program will be seeking proposals soon.
3.2
Bike Trail
Maintenance Survey: The last survey was received.
Staff will summarize the surveys for the next meeting. An ownership map will be created next.
3.3 Spot Improvement Program: CDTC staff and DOT staff
met to discuss procedures for this program.
There are some questions about implementation and administration that
have to be ironed out. This is because
the Spot Improvement Program will be providing federal funds and therefore
requires certain federal reporting.
Another specific question lies in the funding thresholds. CDTC will provide write-up for this program
and the CDTC's Enhancement Program for Task Force
review.
5.0 OTHER UPDATES
A
meeting was held in Albany County to introduce the project. NYBC is very closing to choosing the three
counties they want to work with in New York State.
NYSDOT
has not convened a meeting regarding the Wolf Road bicycle provisions. Tom Werner has however had discussions with
some organizations directly to gain their insight into the matter.
B. Schou gave an update on this project. He would prefer to outfit 100% of their bus
fleet with the racks. This would make
scheduling buses easier than if only part of their fleet had racks. The Access to Jobs program would benefit from
bike racks on buses also. CDTA is now in
the process of determining how to promote the program. CDTA will endeavor to bring some information
on this program to the next meeting.