Capital District Transportation Committee

Bicycle and Pedestrian Task Force

Record of Meeting on February 10, 2000




Attendance: Stephen Feeney (Schenectady County Planning), Kevin McLaughlin (HRV Greenway) Don Odell (Albany County EDC&P) Henrietta O'Grady (Saratoga County Heritage Trails Committee), Bob Ostiguy (Mohawk-Hudson Cycling Club), Don Robertson (NYSDOT - Region 1), Bert Schou (CDTA), Elaine Troy (NYSDOH - Healthy Heart), Ivan Vamos, (New York Bicycling Coalition), Katherine Forster (CDTC)


Regrets:  Paul Russell




There were no changes to the January Task Force meeting notes.




(October 26, 1999) P. Russell will bring a map re: proposed Bike Path from Schuyler Flats to the next meeting. (See Item 3.1)

(December 17, 1999) Contact various municipalities and organizations and gather all the trails and routes to be mapped. (See Item 4.2)

(January 13, 2000) A sub-committee meeting was scheduled to discuss which bus routes should be a top priority for this program (See Item 3.2)

(January 13, 2000) CDTC staff is to provide the current MUTCD Chapter 9 to the Task Force.  The MUTCD Chapter 9 was provided to the Task Force at the February meeting along with an email describing the National Committee on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (NCUTCD) that also reviewed the proposed changes to Chapter 9.  Their suggested changes can be viewed at

(January 13, 2000) The Albany County Bicycle Collision Data will be provided to NYBC to use in their safety program.  CDTC staff sent the information to Paul Winkeller.

(January 13, 2000) In regards to the Livingston Avenue Bridge, CDTC staff is to provide the City of Albany's correspondence to the Task Force along with the addresses for the New York state senators.  Staff sent out the City of Albany's correspondence with the January notes.  The addresses were provided at the meeting. 


Further discussion on the Livingston Avenue Bridge ensued.  It was suggested that NYSDOT should be asked to formally support the pedestrian component to the Livingston Avenue Bridge.  Ivan Vamos, representing NYBC, will pursue this by speaking to Ted Thompson and he will see if the pedestrian component can be added to the contract, if the contract is not already formalized. 




3.1 Schuyler Flats Bike Trail: Deferred until the March meeting.


3.2 Bikes on Buses:  The subcommittee meeting was held and seven people attended.  The Central Avenue route is seen as a priority by the subcommittee.  Other routes that were prioritized were routes that served the various universities, the Mohawk-Hudson Bike-Hike Trail and the Troy-Schenectady route and the Albany-Troy route.  Bert Schou supplied the Task Force with a picture of what the bike racks would look like and a bus route list that gave the number of buses on each route.  He requested that the members of the Task Force submit their preferred routes to him in the next week.  He would amalgamate the lists into one master list that would represent the Task Force's recommendation.



3.3 CDTC Linkages Program: CDTC received various applications from the Capital District for this program.  The proposed projects involve truck access, studies on parking, planning and commercial development potential, transportation issues including bicycle and pedestrian access and other issues.  CDTC will be funding the twelve projects on the list that was handed out at the Task Force meeting (some of the projects had to be scaled down so that all could be funded).  The Planning Committee approved this list at the Feb. 2, 2000 meeting.  The Bicycle and Pedestrian Task Force will be involved in the two projects that focus on bicycle and pedestrian concerns: The Urban Bike Path Design Guidelines and The City of Schenectady Bike Path Master Plan.




4.1 Bike Signage Guidelines: A final review of the draft guidelines was deferred until the March meeting.  After finalizing the guidelines they will be sent out to the Capital District municipalities for comments.


4.2 Regional Bike Map: Work on gathering all the digitized data regarding bike routes, multi-use paths and hiking trails in the Capital District has started.  By using digitized data that has already been created, CDTC will not have to create new layers from scanned or digitized maps.  CDTC staff have contacted various people regarding digitized data for the State bike routes, the Taconic Trail, the Long Path and various layers for state and municipal parks and historic sites.  Work is on-going.




5.1 Wolf Rd. Crosswalk Signal - Pedestrian Attitude Survey: CDTC is interested in studying the public's opinion on the new countdown crosswalk signal that has been installed on Wolf Road.  The countdown signal shows the remaining time to cross the intersection.  It counts down the remaining seconds so that the pedestrian who is crossing sees the time remaining: 10, 9, 8, etc.  The Task Force thought the survey was a good idea but suggested that CDTC staff do the survey later in the year.  This would give the pedestrians who use the crosswalk at least six months to get adjusted to the new signal before the survey was done.  Other suggestions for specific questions were as follows:


Question # 1. In general do you use pedestrian buttons to activate the pedestrian signal (if it is not already activated) so that you can cross the road?

Question # 2. Are you more likely to use the pedestrian button to activate this new type of countdown signal?

Question # 4. Have you ever changed your mind about crossing the street with the new signal?


Other questions suggested:


- Does the new signal confuse you?

- Which system do you prefer?

- Would you like to see more of these signals used in the Capital District?

- If you knew how long you had to wait for the green light, would you be more likely to wait?


The Task Force's suggestions were greatly appreciated.  If there are any further suggestions please contact Katherine Forster directly.  Staff will update the Task Force of the results of the survey when the survey is done.




-        The next CDTC Bicycle and Pedestrian Task Force meeting is scheduled for Thursday, March 9, at the CDTC office, 5 Computer Dr. West, at 4:00 p.m.